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"Peckham is the land of the free. It’s like a blank canvas," said Hannah Barry, an enterprising 26-year-old

I suppose you could make a case for this being an unusual outbreak of honesty regarding urban colonisation, but I strongly suspect that she doesn't even realise what she's saying.

(Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] alexmacpherson for the link.)

Date: 2009-10-19 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
My friend Pip once overheard a Camberwell student walk into a nail salon and ask for "ghetto nails" :o

Date: 2009-10-19 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Nnnng. I shouldn't get so wound up about this sort of thing - everyone was young and stupid at some point, we've all said stuff we would later regret, etc, etc - but the sheer unthinkingness of it all really gets to me. You'd hope that all that education would provide some degree of self-awareness. Apparently not.

Date: 2009-10-19 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marnameow.livejournal.com
26 = really not that young, though!

Date: 2009-10-19 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com
Well, no! I know I'm obvs fantastic but that's FOUR YEARS older than me ie: nearly Kat's age.

Date: 2009-10-19 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I increasingly think that getting wound up about idiocy is much healthier than just going "who cares" and letting idiocy pass unremarked.

Date: 2009-10-19 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-bracken.livejournal.com
What is it with the NYTimes and South London (http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/travel/22surfacing.html?scp=1&sq=deptford&st=cse) this year anyway? Or do I just notice these things because I live there?

Date: 2009-10-19 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Yeah, I saw that earlier this year when someone linked to it. It does seem a bit odd, though no stranger than the Guardian covering Williamsburg (http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2009/mar/06/live-music-bars-new-york).

Date: 2009-10-19 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-bracken.livejournal.com
I suppose the difference is that I've sort of assumed (mainly from HipsterRunoff and "Gary Benchley, Rock Star", so perhaps not the best sources) that Williamsburg is sort of cool anyway, whereas no-one in London goes WOW YEAH PECKHAM (s/PECKHAM/DEPTFORD/ etc) when you talk about such places...

Date: 2009-10-19 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lozette.livejournal.com
I do! But then I'm probably fairly unusual.

Date: 2009-10-19 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumsbitch.livejournal.com
Me too. We are a vanguard movement. You'll see.

Date: 2009-10-19 02:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-10-19 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
I'm all for it if it manages to deflect these people from Dalston...yeah, I know, that horse has long bolted, but STILL.

Date: 2009-10-19 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lozette.livejournal.com
In all honesty, Hannah Barry and related people have been doing this stuff in Peckham for ages (at least 3-4 years; I only moved there in 2007 but I remember the Sassoon Gallery being open a couple of years before that) so it's not very new.

I was surprised to see the date stamp on that article is October 14th 2009, as I remember reading one that was identical (in fact it might be the same article, repurposed) in a UK newspaper over a year ago.

Date: 2009-10-19 10:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruudboy.livejournal.com
Are these not just both general "I'm not a tourist, I'm a traveller" bilge?

Date: 2009-10-19 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruudboy.livejournal.com
For some reason I can't explain, it pleases me a lot that they printed the phone number for Goddard's in the NYT.

Date: 2009-10-19 12:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lozette.livejournal.com
I think it's my lack of education showing, but I'm not sure what she's saying either. I just, er, feel the need to comment because I live in / love Peckham. I'm not sure if that's bad or not...?

Date: 2009-10-19 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Land of the free = USA, the 'wide open spaces' of which were also thought of as being a bit of a 'blank canvas', conveniently ignoring all those people that happened to be living there already.

Date: 2009-10-19 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lozette.livejournal.com
Ah OK, I see what you're saying now.

Hmm, I feel like a bit of an interloper now, myself :-S

Date: 2009-10-19 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boyofbadgers.livejournal.com
Dude, there's nowt wrong with moving to Peckham because you like it there! It's the 'blank canvas' thing that I object to.

Date: 2009-10-19 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lozette.livejournal.com
Yeah, I do see what you're saying now. I'm just not very good at understanding concepts & stuff!

I feel bad though, because I vividly remember reading an article about Hannah Barry in a UK newspaper about a year ago and being all "yay go Peckham" about it. I'm not very good with reading into things and didn't understand the subtext.

Date: 2009-10-19 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tansu.livejournal.com
I also fucking love the code of "is said to have the capital’s highest concentration of knife crime, hairdressers and gospel churches"

Date: 2009-10-19 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumsbitch.livejournal.com
Grr. Urge to kill... rising...

Date: 2009-10-19 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] friend-of-tofu.livejournal.com
Peckham, a run-down district of London with low prices and empty industrial spaces

HATE!

And I couldn't actually AFFORD the house I most wanted in Peckham so, er, WTF??

It's only a 'blank canvas' for people who've never been on a bus through there at rush hour...

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